The Teacher As Author with Megan Daly

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Melissa Milner 0:09

Welcome to The Teacher As... Podcast. I'm your host, Melissa Milner, a teacher who is painfully curious and very easily inspired. This podcast is ever changing, and I hope with each season, you find episodes that speak to you in your work as an educator. This is the sixth season of The Teacher As... and it's exciting to see the growth in how many educators are listening. Episodes are released everyother week. If you enjoy The Teacher As..., please rate it on Apple podcasts and leave a review. It helps the podcast reach more educators. Thanks for listening.

Megan Daly 0:42

I'm Megan Daly. I have been in education for a few years now. I spent the majority of my time in fourth grade, which I loved before welcoming my baby boy. And in my time in fourth grade, you know, I spent a lot of time in larger size classrooms where, you know, I found it a little difficult to make sure that there was that, like personal relationship with each student. And the last year of teaching that I had, there was a boy in my class, and I'll never forget it. And his mom came up to me at parent teacher conferences and was like, he he thinks that, that you don't like him. And I still remember going home from that conversation so upset and in tears, which led me to the idea of writing my first book title. My Teacher Doesn't Like Me. So I would never want any student to feel that way. My experience of being a teacher is I've never felt that way, and I hope this, this book, can resonate with a lot of students and teachers.

Melissa Milner 1:45

So, I mean, I mean, we met, obviously, when you were doing the student teaching stuff with the amazing Patti Beckman, yes, since retired,

Megan Daly 1:52

I know sort of sad.

Melissa Milner 1:54

Yeah, we're sad not to have her on the team anymore. But when I heard you had written a book, I'm like, what, what, what? So that now it makes sense the kind of the genesis of how that happened. But, um, can you tell us, you know, did you reflect on it and make sense before we get to the book? Did you make sense of why maybe that student felt that way? Or, you know, it was how the student came in and his, his or her perceptions and things like that, or did you never figure it out?

Megan Daly 2:25

Yeah, no, I, I did. I think a lot of times as as a teacher, you kind of sometimes have that one student, right, that one student that likes to be, you know, the the jokester of the group and the center of attention. And always wants, you know, the attention of the class, and is trying to be that kid in the classroom. And you know myself as a person, I found that child extremely funny, and I liked him, but I still had a job as a teacher. We started a new curriculum, and it was very curriculum heavy, and I had a lot to do on my end, and it was distracting, you know, that that some kids, they have hard learning new material and getting, you know, used to something new. So for him, I had the conversation with the mom, and I was like, why does he... why does he feel that way? Is there something that I did and and she was like, I don't know. Like, I tried to get it, you know, across try and see if he could explain it to me. And he was like, she doesn't think I'm funny. And I was like, oh, he's hilarious. I was like, No, that's not me.

Megan Daly 3:30

And I remember going home that night to my husband. I was like, he thinks that I don't like him. I would never want a child coming into my classroom to feel that way. I mean, my classroom, since day one, is always about being welcoming and open and open to all students. And so it just made me sad, and I didn't sleep. I'm the type of person. I was like, trying to grasp my brain around that. I was like, What can I do to make him feel that way? And so I remember going in the next day, and I pulled him for a little chat before school started. And I was like, Oh, I talked to your mom. We had a great conversation. I told her everything that you're doing well, and it's funny, we'll get to it in the book. But we had a similar conversation, being like, you know, buddy, I I have a lot to do as your teacher, and it's my responsibility that you learn, right? I was like, Is there something that made you feel the way that you did? And I want to work together. I would not want you to feel that way. And I remember he straight up, was like, you don't think I'm funny, and it hurts my feelings. And I was like, You are hilarious. Trust me, you're a funny kid, and I know you're going to be funny, but you know, we have to save our funniness for certain times of the day, right? And I'll make sure to allow those funny moments in but we got to work together to to help you out. So that's kind of ...

Melissa Milner 4:45

That's too funny.

Megan Daly 4:45

How it came to be, yeah.

Melissa Milner 4:47

What age was this?

Megan Daly 4:48

Fourth

Melissa Milner 4:49

Yeah, okay, fourth grade.

Megan Daly 4:50

He had just turned 10.

Melissa Milner 4:51

Yeah, yeah. I know some comedian someday. Yeah. That's awesome. So, I mean, how did you get from that to I'm going to write a book.

Megan Daly 4:59

Yeah. So again, it all started from that conversation and coming home upset to my husband. And my mom was a teacher. My grandparents were teachers. And I remember calling my mom too, and I was so upset, and my husband was like, Oh yeah, teachers didn't like me growing up. And my husband has ADHD, and so he was like, Yeah, none of the teachers liked me. And I was like, Well, how did you act in school? So it kind of was a conversation with him. And I talked to some of my friends, some that had suffered from ADHD and, you know, some that didn't. And it's funny, there's so there's always that that, you know, conversation of, oh yeah, I remember my third grade teacher didn't like me, but my fourth grade teacher did. And as a teacher myself, I'm like, Are Are you sure?

Megan Daly 5:42

Like, are you sure that they didn't like you, or was there some miscommunication? Or, you know, Were you being too silly, or did something happen? And so really, you know, my husband was telling me about his experience, and he was similar to this child. He was silly and the class clown, and he struggled in school his ADHD, you know, with reading and writing, it was not easy for him, and so because he found it so difficult and he wasn't getting the help that he needed. Well, he came to school being like, I don't like school. My teacher doesn't like me. I'm not getting the help that I need. I don't enjoy this. And so, you know, it just from the parent teacher conferences, it became this ongoing conversation with me, and I would bring it up to so many people. And my lifelong goal has always been to write a children's book.

Melissa Milner 6:28

Oh, so that was already there.

Megan Daly 6:30

Yes.

Melissa Milner 6:31

Okay.

Megan Daly 6:31

Oh, I've always wanted to write a book. I just never knew what about.

Melissa Milner 6:35

Gotcha. Gotcha.

Megan Daly 6:36

And so because this became such a big part of me, that sad conversation, I was like, I'm... this is what I'm going to do.

Melissa Milner 6:43

Great. So tell us about the book.

Megan Daly 6:45

So My Teacher Doesn't Like Me. It's about a boy, and he starts off being like, he doesn't want to go to school. His teacher doesn't like me, but he struggles with this internal feeling of, I want her to like me. What can I do? And so, you know, at morning meeting, he's sitting with his class, and he has this thought. He's like, I'm going to be good today, you know, I'm not going to be funny. I'm not going to be at the jokester, but then he ends up doing it because I think he's seeking that attention. And my thought is, he is a boy that has ADHD in school.

Melissa Milner 7:15

So you have his in... you have his internal dialogue.

Megan Daly 7:19

Yes.

Melissa Milner 7:19

Like, I'm going to do this, you know? And then he goes back to his old habit.

Megan Daly 7:23

Exactly. So it's like that fighting of I'm I'm going to be sits... I'm going to sit still, I'm going to be quiet, I'm going to do my work. And then, you know, he didn't understand the math equation. It's like, Oh no, my silliness comes out. I'm going to go make my friends laugh, right? And it gets to a point in the day, which I feel like is, you know, it resonates a lot with kids is reading, and my husband struggled with the same thing. And I know a lot of kids in my fourth grade classes did too. If they can't find that book right, they're immediately like, I don't like to read. Well, do you not like to read, or are you struggling with finding the right book for you?

Megan Daly 7:57

And I think that's where it's important, as a teacher, you know, to help them find that book. And so the student in the book, he's struggling to find a book that he likes. It's quiet reading time, and he just, he picks a book because he has to be quiet and find his quiet spot in a few minutes. And he gets the book, and he's like, I'm not going to read this book. So he writes a note, and the note explains, you know, my teacher doesn't like me. She doesn't think I'm funny. And he starts to pass it around, and then the teacher ends up finding it, and she pulls him aside during lunch, which is the funny part of the book, because he says lunch is his favorite part of the day, which you hear a lot from students.

Melissa Milner 8:36

Of course, lunch and recess...

Megan Daly 8:39

Always. And so the teacher pulls him aside and she... she explains, like I said earlier, that of course, I like you. Let's, let's work together if you're struggling in a subject, come, come get me for help. I'm always there to help you if you need to get your sillies out. You know, this is kind of resonated. I made the age group a little higher just in terms of the title being the way it is. But you know, if he's feeling silly, he can go take a walk really quickly and come right back if he's got to get those sillies out to not disrupt the class. I would rather him do that. And so, you know, they work together, and then at the end, he's... he knows that he's going to have a good school year from that. So I think it's important conversations to have.

Melissa Milner 9:20

Very cute. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Now who I can you show the cover? It looks I can. Yes, it looks great. So like, who did the illustrations?

Megan Daly 9:29

Yeah. So I started the process of writing the book. It took me probably a little over a year. There was a lot of different rough drafts to it, and it is a rhyming book, so rhyming in itself. It took a while, a lot of synonyms and everything to get the rhyming down. But once I wrote the book and got it towards the final draft, I started looking for the illustrator. And there's a convenient website, Children's Illustrators for Hire. And yeah, she she was amazing. She was one of probably 30 different illustrators I reached out to. And I think the biggest thing, if people are self publishing, to note, is an illustrator can range in any price, and you don't know until you reach out to them. So it was definitely a learning experience for me. For sure, I know one illustrator for 10 pages, it was $10,000 for just 10 pages, and my book's 40 pages. So I was like, Oh, that is a little...

Melissa Milner 9:31

Now is this self published? Or did you try to get it?

Megan Daly 9:55

No, I just self published.

Melissa Milner 10:07

Okay.

Megan Daly 10:07

Yeah, that was always my intent. If I were to write another one, I would consider finding a publisher. But for this. I wanted the... I wanted the freedom of finding my own illustrator. Just because I knew what I wanted in terms of the pictures, I already had the idea in mind. So I found Olga Borodkina. She reached out to me. She sent me a sketch of my characters, my main student and my teacher. And thankfully, I as a note for other self published artists to ask for that sketch and and to not, you know, she didn't make me pay for it, which I thought was really nice. And she got my vision down. There was a couple tweaks here and there, and she sent those to me. And then I sent her the book, and she got started, and she hand water colored all of the pictures, which I loved.

Melissa Milner 10:48

Wow.

Megan Daly 11:03

So she ended up water coloring everything, and then she put it through the computer as like, a PDF. So she's super, super talented.

Melissa Milner 11:31

Does she choose the font for the writing as well? Or you do?

Megan Daly 11:34

We went through a couple, she gave me some suggestions, and we looked at the font like on the pages together.

Melissa Milner 11:40

Yeah.

Megan Daly 11:40

So we, we chose together the font.

Melissa Milner 11:42

It looks amazing.

Megan Daly 11:46

Yeah, she has published, or she's been the illustrator for four other books, which really helped me, because it was my first book. So yeah, she kind of knew the best fonts and what's allowed and and size of the book too. Like, I wanted, I wanted it square. And she was like, Okay, if you want it square, it's gotta be this size. So having her was so so great, because I didn't know any of that stuff. So...

Melissa Milner 12:08

That's such a learning curve.

Megan Daly 12:10

Oh, yes.

Melissa Milner 12:10

And then how do you self publish? Like, is it through a certain website?

Megan Daly 12:15

Yeah. So there's different options. I chose to do Ingram Spark, which Ingram Spark is because I have hard cover and soft cover. So if you want to, I also did Amazon. Amazon only does soft cover, so I first put it onto Amazon. Amazon. The good thing about Amazon is you make a little bit more money off of Amazon. They don't take as much, and because it's soft cover, it's not as expensive to print or Amazon.

Melissa Milner 12:44

Yeah, yeah.

Megan Daly 12:44

The positive with Ingram Spark. So like a lot of people, choose Amazon. You know, for that reason, the positive of Ingram Spark is one. I also got my hard cover of my book, but also through Ingram Spark, you're allowed to sell to other bookstores, so bookstores can buy your book, like my books on Barnes and Noble, because I went through Ingram Spark, but if I had just done Amazon, then Barnes and Noble couldn't pick it up, and if, like, self owned bookstores couldn't get it, I couldn't go to first market stuff like that. So that's the positive.

Melissa Milner 13:14

Do they... do those bookstores go on to Ingram and look for interesting titles?

Megan Daly 13:19

Yeah. So they do. So you get to choose that on Ingram Spark, if you want, like bookstores to find your book, or if you strictly just want to give out a link to people so that they can buy the hardcover. But I made it so that it's nationwide. Whoever wants to look it up and find it would be able to have access to it.

Melissa Milner 13:37

Yeah.

Megan Daly 13:37

So you're not getting as much money that way. But I've, you know, I've talked to a ton of bookstores, and now they're able to get my book and I can go in and do read alouds, whereas if I had strictly done Amazon, I couldn't do that with my rights.

Melissa Milner 13:50

Exactly. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Does Whitelamb have it in Reading? I would hope.

Megan Daly 13:55

You know what, I haven't reached out to them yet. I have, like, this long list, I know.

Melissa Milner 14:00

I mean, you taught in Reading. So you...

Megan Daly 14:03

I know Reading is what I need to that's my next...

Melissa Milner 14:07

They will definitely, definitely carry it. Yeah.

Megan Daly 14:10

That's, that's the good thing. I mean, I never went into this being like, I want to make money. That's not... as a self published art, a self published writer, chances are with your first book, you're not going to. I just had this idea, and I knew from a teacher's point of view and students that they could relate to this book, so that was my main focus of just doing it. But you know, in the first month, I sold like over 70 books, which I'm super happy about.

Melissa Milner 14:37

Right.

Megan Daly 14:37

Hadn't even marketed yet, so I'm just in the process of finding...

Melissa Milner 14:41

So, how did you sell those 70 books without marketing.

Megan Daly 14:44

Just social media. So I guess the social media aspect is...

Melissa Milner 14:48

There you go.

Megan Daly 14:48

Yeah, yeah. So I posted, and I had my friends and family repost it. I know you had seen it because Patti reposted it.

Melissa Milner 14:55

Yeah.

Megan Daly 14:56

Which is great, and I posted on LinkedIn, which helped. But, now I'm doing the marketing aspect of calling Barnes and Noble to do read alouds and different events at at bookstores, and trying to get them to get my book in in stock.

Melissa Milner 15:09

That's great. Wow. That's amazing. Like, I think about this and how, you know, there's so many experiences that teachers have that they could write a book about. I mean, there's so so so many, yep. But I also think just the self publishing piece, like, if you had student authors, how much is it to, like, do that on Amazon, or do that there's, there's a few companies, education companies that do the printing. Can't remember the name of it, but it's like, pretty cheap to get, like, a paperback of your book.

Megan Daly 15:40

Yeah. I mean, I think Amazon, I believe I so this from, like, if I as the author, wanted to get it printed, it's only, like, $4.50 but mine's a lot of pages. But you know, if you had a page per student, I was thinking of, like the animal adaptations for our fourth grade class.

Melissa Milner 16:00

Yeah.

Megan Daly 16:00

They could make a page about their animals and get it printed. So my soft cover is on sale for $12.99, I know families would easily, you know, want to see their kids, yeah, page publishing a book. So I feel like you could easily, Amazon has the ability, like you'd easily be able to do that.

Melissa Milner 16:18

And so how many copies did you decide you needed to start?

Megan Daly 16:23

Yeah, so I always have just one on hand, just in case. I have 15 soft cover, and I just sold two hardcover, but I have eight hardcover, and I have a few events in the fall coming up. One, I'm at a farmer's market down at the Pine Hills in Plymouth, they have a new bookstore, so I'm there. So they're letting me set up a table. I'm going to do a read aloud for them, but I'm also so I'll probably bring those copies. But then Ingram Spark gives you a QR code so that people can scan the QR code, and they'll bring you directly to like the Barnes and Noble website for them to purchase, so...

Melissa Milner 16:58

And then my next question is, yeah, you know, for those educators out there that are interested in this, like, at what point do you decide, okay, I want to do an audio book of it, you know, and get it out on all the audiobook titles.

Megan Daly 17:11

That's a great idea.

Melissa Milner 17:12

When do you do that? How do you do that?

Megan Daly 17:16

I mean, you just put that in my head. I mean, that's a great, great idea. So I think that's next on my list is figuring that out. I'm sure I feel like, if anything, Amazon has that feature, because I would buy audio books for my kids during snack to listen to, right? And they have the Kindle and stuff like that. So, yeah, that's a great idea. I'm gonna have to do that.

Melissa Milner 17:38

Something to think about.

Megan Daly 17:39

Yeah, for sure. Thank you.

Melissa Milner 17:42

You know, are you hoping to write more?

Megan Daly 17:44

I would love to. I'm, you know, I there was so much back and forth about the title of the book, right there. You know, I've had my experience. I know my friends and family have had experience with this title, but I'll be honest, I posted about that. I wrote this for the first time, and my friends and family reposted, and there was a couple of people on their reposts that made comments being like, oh, that title. Like, I don't, I don't like that title. That's very aggressive. And that's, that's what scares...

Melissa Milner 18:16

That's the whole point of the book, though.

Megan Daly 18:18

Exactly. Yeah, that's you got to read the book, and if you if you had, if you have kids, or if you've been in the education setting, or anything like that, you know that this has come up in conversation all the time.

Melissa Milner 18:31

Absolutely.

Megan Daly 18:31

Yeah. But my general idea for like, continuing writing books would be like my so and so doesn't like me, but my fear of continuing this type of series is, you know, how people took the title, but I don't want to not do it because of a few people.

Melissa Milner 18:52

And I mean, you could do it my blank or you could do it my teacher doesn't, and something else, exactly, my teacher doesn't pay attention to my teacher. Yeah, right, you know. But then, like, again, those people would be like, that's negative.

Megan Daly 19:06

But once you read the book, you get to the second half of the book, and it's extremely positive books. So...

Melissa Milner 19:11

Of course, that's the whole point of it, yeah.

Megan Daly 19:13

So I, I'm definitely, I'm already in my, you know, I've, I've had a good month, success of it, and now I'm hoping to spend this next school year of really pushing it into schools and getting more opportunities that it just makes me excited, and I loved, loved the process. So I'm definitely looking for more ideas for book number two, for sure.

Melissa Milner 19:35

So you mentioned you're not teaching this year. You have your you have your what's his name? Jameson. Jameson, I love that name. So you have Jameson, and you're really working this year on just doing this promotion stuff.

Megan Daly 19:49

Yes, exactly. I mean, I love teaching. It's my passion. I'm, you know, I have all my school stuff in the room next door, and every time I see it, I just get sad because I know it's what I'm supposed to do, and I'm what I'm meant to do. You know, just for those in Massachusetts, they, they understand the cost of childcare, and it's, it's, it's a lot. I would hate to to send him just for that reason. And you know, so once he's in preschool, my goal is to go back, and I would love to continue in fourth grade, because I feel like I loved that grade,

Melissa Milner 20:21

Unless you're a very, very, you know, big author and don't have the time.

Megan Daly 20:26

Yes.

Melissa Milner 20:26

Have you reached out to Scholastic too?

Megan Daly 20:29

No, I haven't. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Melissa Milner 20:31

Because they, they set up all the touring and all that stuff, right? Promote, yeah,

Megan Daly 20:37

Yes, exactly. I know there's so much opportunity and and I feel like this book is, you know, would be a great read aloud and schools. So that's, that's my main goal for this year. But I'm definitely not giving up on education, because I know it's where I should be, and I can only imagine, you know, starting off a new school year in the first month of school and and being able to read this aloud to my students, I think would would be a great little read aloud for them. So...

Melissa Milner 21:03

So, I know that when something like this happens, the parents can handle it different ways. The parents can assume that it is absolutely true that this teacher does not like their child. Or can do, you know? Can say, you know, I know he must just feel this way for what? So the title of your book is, My Teacher Doesn't Like Me.

Megan Daly 21:27

Yes,.

Melissa Milner 21:28

So could you do my son's teacher or my you know, my son's teacher doesn't like him, or something like that, and have something more like kind of teaching parents that we should give teachers the benefit of the doubt. Kind of, yeah, because that's something I've seen in my way too many years of teaching, is because the parents are like, I know it's insane, and I know you're not like this, but he thinks that. And then you have parents who like, what are you doing to my child? Why are you picking on my child.

Megan Daly 22:00

I know we almost need that other perspective. I think that's a great idea.

Melissa Milner 22:05

I think a parent Yeah, or you take that book and you go to parent groups and you try to get get it promoted in parent groups and stuff like that.

Megan Daly 22:14

Yeah, of course,

Melissa Milner 22:15

Like that message needs to be seen that this is not, this is a perception that your young child who is learning about life, right? The perception that your child has, it's a misconception, yep. And if I'm calling your child's name all the time, hmm...

Megan Daly 22:30

Right, there might be something else.

Melissa Milner 22:32

Yes, yes.

Megan Daly 22:34

I know it's all, I mean, you know of that age, it's, I feel like it's always something for him, that student in particular, that you know, not every part of this book is him, but I based it off of that experience, of course, and other aspects of teaching that I went through, but he was going through other things too that I didn't know about at the time. So, you know, I think it's the learning experience of a teacher and learning about their students that are in the class and learning about the parents too. I mean, it's endless communication, as you probably know, yeah, but I think it would be great for I would hate for a parent to see this and judge it based on the title. I feel like it's a must read for them.

Melissa Milner 23:16

Absolutely, for sure. Also because this is the way my brain goes like, I get inspired by things. You could call it the my teacher series, yeah, and just everything, whatever it is my teacher does, my teacher doesn't. My teacher loves me, my teacher whatever supports me, whatever, it's just the my teacher series and the whatever the type that starts with my teacher, yeah, that as well.

Megan Daly 23:39

Yeah, I know that's the thing. There's so much opportunity to grow from it. Yeah? So I'm hoping, once you know I can, I'm hoping I can get into schools. I don't know if you have any advice on who to reach out to for schools. I don't know if it's best to do the librarian or principal or whoever may be, but you know, I love the opportunity to share it with with whoever I can.

Melissa Milner 24:00

Yeah. I think PTO Yeah, because they usually pay for the authors to come in. So library, librarian/ PTO, yeah, is at least at our school, right? That's kind of the way it is, yeah, okay.

Megan Daly 24:14

Yeah, that's good to know.

Melissa Milner 24:15

So I've had authors Zoom in, you know, just to classrooms. So even just reaching out to independent teachers, you know, just teachers, yeah, about Zooming in, but, yeah, that's the way that works, as far as charging teachers.

Megan Daly 24:30

Well, see, that's the thing like again, to me, it's not I wouldn't even expect, to me, it means more if I would love to provide teachers with a sheet to put in, like a take home fold folder for students with where parents can buy my book, and I wouldn't even expect anyone to pay me to come to a read aloud

Melissa Milner 24:51

Right? Because it's promotion.

Megan Daly 24:52

Yeah, I would care more about the student going home to their parent saying we read this book. I want it. I resonate with it. I loved it. Like, I think even if, you know, in a classroom of 24 if two kids decided they wanted to buy it, I think that's more meaningful than PTO having to pay me. Yeah, you know what? I mean? Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't even ask for it, yeah, yeah. So...

Melissa Milner 25:19

well, I think it's amazing. And there's a lot of ways you could go with it. Yeah, I just had another idea, but whatever.

Megan Daly 25:25

Yeah, tell me all the ideas. I love it.

Melissa Milner 25:29

Because, you know, you have the my teacher, and then, you know, you could do it from the teacher's perspective, my student thinks I don't like him.

Megan Daly 25:38

Yes, that was that. That's actually on the drawing board. Yeah, yep.

Melissa Milner 25:41

And that even, could you, I mean, you could do just a teacher, professional book, yeah, having an inclusive environment and making children feel they belong, and even then sometimes a student because you didn't laugh at their joke or because they did, yeah.

Megan Daly 25:56

But you're so right because, I mean, as a teacher, I've had that experience, right? I know the first month or two of school, you're really cracking down on the rules and expectations and and you're trying to create that, you know, classroom expectation of, no, we're we're not going to do this, that and the other thing. But then you have those moments when you can have a lot of fun, and some students aren't, as, you know, receptive to it. I'm like, oh my goodness, do they don't like me. I'm trying to be fun. I'm finally trying to be fun.

Melissa Milner 26:24

I'm playing some music and dancing around like a crazy person. And...

Megan Daly 26:27

Why aren't you joining me? Yeah, what do you mean? You don't want to do the word search. So yeah. I mean, I think that's, that's a great idea.

Melissa Milner 26:35

Lots of things to do, I know, and anything, any, anytime you want to come back on then share with us what you're working on.

Megan Daly 26:43

Oh, awesome. Thank you.

Melissa Milner 26:44

So social media just let, I mean, I'm going to put everything on the episode page, including links to buy the book, just like, maybe just share what your socials are.

Megan Daly 26:53

Yeah. So Instagram is at Downing Megan, very confusing, but it's my maiden name. I just kept that in terms of, you know, from being a teacher, and same thing on Facebook, it's Megan Downing. I share all that. And then, yeah, if on Amazon and Barnes and Noble, you just look up the title, My Teacher Doesn't Like Me, and it's on both those platforms. So...

Melissa Milner 27:15

Excellent. Anything else you want the listeners to know about you or your book?

Megan Daly 27:20

No, I don't think so. I mean, I hope this conversation that, you know, resonates with a lot of people, and you know, any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Oh, my email is DalyMegan4 at Gmail. I'd be happy to have any conversations about the book or give anyone a preview before they buy it, or anything like that.

Melissa Milner 27:38

Is it D, a l, y, or D, a, l, e, Y,

Megan Daly 27:41

Yes, thank you. D, a, l, y, and then Megan is just M, E, G, A, N, so dalymegan4@gmail.com

Melissa Milner 27:47

And then you've got downing on the other one.

Megan Daly 27:50

I know, I think I might have to change that.

Melissa Milner 27:52

I'll just, I'll put it you'll just email it all to me. I'll put it in the episode page. Excellent. And I also recommend you getting on as many podcasts as you can get on.

Melissa Milner 28:02

Yeah, do they have any podcasts would just have contact information on on their site? Or...

Melissa Milner 28:07

Yeah. I mean, I don't know if the Scholastic have, like, a podcast? I don't know, or like librarian podcasts.

Megan Daly 28:16

Yeah, yep.

Melissa Milner 28:17

That's a good one to get on. Yeah.

Megan Daly 28:19

So much, so much marketing to do, so it'll be my full time job for sure.

Melissa Milner 28:25

And you get to be with your baby.

Megan Daly 28:27

Yes, I know that's most important to me right now, until he's a little older.

Melissa Milner 28:31

Yes, excellent. Well, thank you so much for taking the time out to talk to me.

Megan Daly 28:36

Of course. Thank you for having me. This was so much fun.

Melissa Milner 28:39

For my blog, transcripts of this episode and links to any resources mentioned visit my website at www.theteachercom You can reach me on Twitter and Instagram @melissabmilner, and I hope you check out The Teacher As... Facebook page for episode updates. Thanks for listening, and that's a wrap.

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