Zooming In on Documentary Storytelling with Glenn Kirschbaum

Glenn with the incomparable Mel Brooks

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Outline

Glenn Kirschbaum's Career Journey

  • Melissa Milner introduces the podcast and its sixth season, encouraging listeners to rate and review it.

  • Glenn Kirschbaum shares his background, starting from Sharon, Massachusetts, and moving to Hollywood in 1980.

  • Glenn initially aimed to write comedy but shifted to documentary work due to the miserable nature of comedy writers.

  • He worked on the show "That's Incredible," featuring bizarre and unusual individuals, which led to promotions in his career.

Transition to Documentary Filmmaking

  • Glenn discusses his transition from comedy to documentary filmmaking, working with networks like ABC, NBC, and CBS.

  • He highlights his work on the History Channel and the Emmy-winning documentary on Hitler and the Holocaust.

  • Glenn shares his experience writing for "Unsolved Mysteries," including creating memorable lines for Robert Stack.

  • He recounts stories of working with Robert Stack and the fun and diverse topics covered on the show.

Inspiration and Early Influences

  • Glenn talks about his storytelling roots, influenced by his father, a dentist who loved sharing stories.

  • He mentions his brother, a head writer at "Seinfeld" and "Everybody Loves Raymond," who was also influenced by their father.

  • Glenn reflects on his school experiences, being inspired by teachers who challenged him and allowed him to explore his passions.

  • He emphasizes the importance of teachers who understand that students are unique and can achieve great things.

Advice to Teachers and Students

  • Glenn advises teachers and students to believe in themselves and pursue their passions, regardless of challenges.

  • He shares his philosophy of being nice and how occasionally nice things happen to nice people.

  • Melissa Milner discusses the importance of storytelling in education and how it applies to various genres.

  • Glenn explains the process of creating documentaries, from initial ideas to evolving stories based on field experiences.

Challenges and Evolution in Documentary Filmmaking

  • Glenn discusses the challenges of documentary filmmaking, including the need for a good script and the importance of originality.

  • He shares his experience working on a documentary about the Confederate flag controversy in South Carolina.

  • The project evolved from focusing on Civil War reenactors to exploring the ongoing Civil War debate.

  • Glenn emphasizes the importance of keeping an open mind and being flexible during the production process.

Teaching Students to Make Documentaries

  • Melissa expresses her interest in teaching students to create mini documentaries and the potential of Zoom for interviews.

  • Glenn encourages students to make films, emphasizing the accessibility of filmmaking today.

  • He discusses the challenge of standing out in the crowded field of filmmakers and the importance of originality.

  • Glenn highlights the role of writing in filmmaking, stressing that a good script is crucial for a successful film.

The Gene Wilder Documentary Project

  • Glenn shares the story of how the Gene Wilder documentary project came about, involving Leonard Nimoy's family.

  • The project aimed to raise awareness about Alzheimer's disease, inspired by Wilder's widow, Karen.

  • Glenn and his team decided to celebrate Wilder's life rather than focus on his illness, using his own narration from audio tapes.

  • They secured interviews with Mel Brooks, Alan Alda, and other notable figures who knew Wilder.

Challenges and Successes in Distribution

  • The team faced challenges in getting the documentary distributed, with Netflix and HBO initially not interested.

  • Mel Brooks's support and a successful festival run led to wider interest and a theatrical release.

  • Netflix eventually picked up the film, which became a success, reaching number five on their platform.

  • Glenn emphasizes the importance of persistence and believing in one's work, even when faced with rejection.

Reflections on Career and Future Projects

  • Glenn reflects on his career, expressing gratitude for the opportunities and experiences he has had.

  • He discusses his current project on professional football players and their journey to the Hall of Fame.

  • Glenn emphasizes the importance of capturing real emotions and stories in documentaries.

  • He shares his love for storytelling and the joy of meeting interesting people and exploring unique stories.

Personal Connections and Final Thoughts

  • Melissa and Glenn discuss their shared connection through Sharon High School and mutual friends.

  • Glenn shares his admiration for Gene Wilder and the joy of making Mel Brooks laugh.

  • He reflects on the importance of staying relevant and connected to the younger generation.

  • Glenn concludes with advice for teachers and students, emphasizing the importance of storytelling and pursuing one's passions.


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